tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post6568505381804353668..comments2023-09-17T08:40:33.708-05:00Comments on St. Robert Bellarmine's Blog: Immodest Dress, "A Priest Cries For Modesty!"John Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00803711185913601754noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-26552105264393999122011-06-13T19:58:36.810-05:002011-06-13T19:58:36.810-05:00it is so important for the church,Vatican,to bring...it is so important for the church,Vatican,to bring back the Tridentine mass ,The Original Liturgies,the orientation of the Altar. All of those have function and purpose.<br /><br />The Priest should be facing the East toward Heaven,towards the Crucifix,Where Christ offered his life for us.The birth of the Catholic church through the blood and water that gushed poured forth from the side of Christ.<br />That lead to the First Pentecost,the official Public coming out of the Catholic Church.<br /><br />I believed that unless,we put back the Latin daily Holy Sacrifice to God ,worthy of God and King;<br />We will always be at the disadvantage in this end times "spiritual Warfare."<br /><br />Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.lomenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-67391397261074517272011-06-13T19:43:08.848-05:002011-06-13T19:43:08.848-05:00Question for all. This is not for me,not for those...Question for all. This is not for me,not for those are love Christ and the whole teachings of the Catholic Church.<br />What do you thinks the Philippine President should do with the pending proposal for Divorce Bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-40639765609714142292011-06-02T12:34:53.663-05:002011-06-02T12:34:53.663-05:00I totally agree that a new return to Marylike mode...I totally agree that a new return to Marylike modesty (especially for girls and women) is absolutely necessary, and especially in sacred places, because “immodesty is Satan’s virtue”. This is so true! <br />Regarding women wearing mens clothes however, I think there should be some differentiation, perhaps.<br />I personally would never wear dresses or skirts which do not reach down to the ankles, but often this is so unpractical when working, or cold in winter, etc. so I have decided to wear knee-long (or somewhat above) dresses or skirts OVER (not too tight fitting) pants (Besides, this style is quite fashionable nowadays!). I feel well in this outfit, because I am wholly covered up and can bend or stoop without being afraid to reveal parts of the body that should be covered; furthermore it conceals in great part the shape of the feminine body, as it should be when modestly dressed. In my opinion this style is absolute not against any Marylike modesty standards, it is very feminine (like women in different cultures, e.g. in India wearing loose fitting long trousers and long tunicas over them, or in islamic countries I have seen pictures of little school girls wearing wide pants and dresses over them as school uniforms, even in hot climate countries). <br />i. h. Linz, Austria, EuropeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-16596995759028957752010-05-13T08:09:19.350-05:002010-05-13T08:09:19.350-05:00A woman who sold pants in her retail store in Vanc...A woman who sold pants in her retail store in Vancouver went to confession in Italy to Padre Pio and was refused absolution...<br /><br />"He commanded her to return home to Canada and dispose of all this stock, and not to give any of the items to people who might wear them, and if she wanted his absolution, she could come back to Italy and receve it, only after she ruthlessly carried out his orders." Anne McGinn Cillis, Arrivederci, Padre Pio, "A Spiritual Daughter Remembers. <br /><br />This is a poster that St Pio had on his church door<br /><br />The Church is the house of God. <br />It is forbidden for men to enter with bare arms or in shorts. It is forbidden for women to enter in trousers, without a veil on their head, in short clothing, low necklines, sleeveless or immodest dresses.<br /><br />Because of this I think women should not wear pant at allAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-73977615889383793282010-05-13T08:02:36.112-05:002010-05-13T08:02:36.112-05:00The Church is the house of God.
It is forbidden f...The Church is the house of God. <br />It is forbidden for men to enter with bare arms or in shorts. It is forbidden for women to enter in trousers, without a veil on their head, in short clothing, low necklines, sleeveless or immodest dresses."<br /><br /><br />A woman who sold pants in her retail store in Vancouver went to confession in Italy to Padre Pio and was refused absolution...<br /><br />"He commanded her to return home to Canada and dispose of all this stock, and not to give any of the items to people who might wear them, and if she wanted his absolution, she could come back to Italy and receve it, only after she ruthlessly carried out his orders." Anne McGinn Cillis, Arrivederci, Padre Pio, "A Spiritual Daughte<br /><br /><br />.<br />Because of this I think women shoul not wear pantsat all.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734436718435382537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-52018445791776269012009-01-07T16:27:00.000-06:002009-01-07T16:27:00.000-06:00Thank you for the post about the books on modest b...Thank you for the post about the books on modest but stylish dressing. I listen to Teresa Tomeo on Immaculate Heart Radio, and I really like her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-35743610552935939792009-01-04T13:08:00.000-06:002009-01-04T13:08:00.000-06:00I'm very glad to see this issue being raised and d...I'm very glad to see this issue being raised and dealt with. Thank you. Several years ago, I was blessed to attend a small Tridentine parish in Virginia where the priest was simply wonderful. He addressed this and made the point that if we were invited to a special meal at our employers home, unless it had been specified in the invitation to dress casually, we would NEVER show up dressed as so many dress for Mass. We would show more reverence for our boss than many show for our Lord. <BR/><BR/>For anyone interested, I have recently been introduced to a website and series of books geared towards young girls, but very appropriate for women of any age. Written by three Catholic women, Teresa Tomeo, Molly Miller and Monica Cops. They deal with issues of dignity, modesty, self respect etc... They are called <I>All Things Girl</I> and the books can be found at aquinasandmore.com. I don't know if it is allowed to link to a site, but the following will take you to one set up by the authors of the books that helps girls/women learn how to dress stylishly while maintaining modesty. I bought the books for my 11 year old daughter, but as much as I hate to admit it, I have learned a thing or two myself. http://www.runwaytoreality.org/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-37735141998344118662009-01-01T12:55:00.000-06:002009-01-01T12:55:00.000-06:00I would like to add to my last post of 2:28 a.m. t...I would like to add to my last post of 2:28 a.m. that sometimes during a weekday Mass I and others do dress a little more casually, but modestly. Sometimes I have been out walking, shopping, etc. I might wear corderoy pants or even jeans to a weekday Mass if it cannot be helped. I realize, also, that some people have to wear their workclothes, even to a Sunday Mass, so I try not to judge what people wear, unless it is blantantly immodest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-28769043272227469012009-01-01T02:28:00.000-06:002009-01-01T02:28:00.000-06:00Thank you, Father for your church bulletin. Althou...Thank you, Father for your church bulletin. Although I live in California which is warmer most of the time, I try to dress stylishly but modestly. Sometimes I dress for Mass in skirts and dresses and sometimes in well fitting slacks with a nice blouse--none of them very expensive. A few of the Department Stores near me have some Islamic women as salesclerks. They also dress modestly and stylishly. A few wear head coverings, but not all.<BR/>Some of their head scarves are quite beautiful. when I go to the Post-Vatican II Mass, my head is uncovered. But when I go to the Traditional Mass, approved by my bishop, I cover my head. Also, I cover my head most of the time at Adoration because I find it more conducive to prayer, and my hair is not a distraction to others. It is also a good way of showing respect for the Blessed Sacrament. A mantilla or hood works best, a hat is more distracting and sometimes hard to wear in the newer cars. I find dressing this way gives one self respect, and one is treated more respectfully, by both men and women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-52910172461827981022008-12-31T11:03:00.000-06:002008-12-31T11:03:00.000-06:00Whenever there is a "traditional" discussion about...Whenever there is a "traditional" discussion about modesty I cannot help but be annoyed that the burden of modesty is put on women. There are many men and women in public who throw their sexuality in your face by what they wear or what they lack in clothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-64995366467309799182008-12-30T22:27:00.000-06:002008-12-30T22:27:00.000-06:00Thank you so very much for promoting modesty. As P...Thank you so very much for promoting modesty. As Plain Catholics, we have noticed more people dressing modestly and some women beginning to wear mantillas and other headcoverings just because of the example we set at Mass: not to our glory but thanks be to Jesus who uses us. <BR/><BR/>We appreciate this priest who tries to be faithful to the Church's teaching on modesty.PlainCatholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00795596623546394780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-42830778183650055832008-09-04T15:59:00.001-05:002008-09-04T15:59:00.001-05:00Well said, Jay. I pray the tide will turn. My husb...Well said, Jay. I pray the tide will turn. <BR/><BR/>My husband and I have looked at very old game shows and were shocked at the real "gentlemen" and "ladies" on them! Not only were they dressed dignified and modestly, but they were articulate, kind and mannerly. The contrast was so stunning between then and now, that if I were a Martian, I would think they were NOT from the same planet as people today!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-36302670185919396312008-09-04T15:59:00.000-05:002008-09-04T15:59:00.000-05:00Well said, Jay. I pray the tide will turn. My husb...Well said, Jay. I pray the tide will turn. <BR/><BR/>My husband and I have looked at very old game shows and were shocked at the real "gentlemen" and "ladies" on them! Not only were they dressed dignified and modestly, but they were articulate, kind and mannerly. The contrast was so stunning between then and now, that if I were a Martian, I would think they were NOT from the same planet as people today!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-5749291607078427722008-08-31T09:16:00.000-05:002008-08-31T09:16:00.000-05:00What we see today is increase of mere vulgarity, w...What we see today is increase of mere vulgarity, whatever is vulgar is cool and fashionable - by vulgar I mean all revealing clothes, male or female, it does not matter. Modesty, not to mention purity or chastity are in most mindset - middle ages. It is very alarming, but in the end people will be fed up with all these tendencies and maybe future will be better. We need to pray more Rosaries for those young and older also (sadly) who forgot about dignity and chose vulgarity instead.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019463202735275839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-45942280382272409642008-08-26T09:40:00.000-05:002008-08-26T09:40:00.000-05:00During an aparition at Medjugorije, a teenage girl...During an aparition at Medjugorije, a teenage girl who was wearing a miniskirt was asked by our lady (through Ivanka) to go home and change her dress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-45242270106139527442008-08-24T22:10:00.000-05:002008-08-24T22:10:00.000-05:00Richard,I think that your comment about men being ...Richard,<BR/><BR/>I think that your comment about men being dogs to be kept on a leash was very hateful, but you were published, non the less. Now, I hope my response is given a chance, as I will be charitable in my reply to you.<BR/><BR/>Most men are very visual PEOPLE, not animals. An animal simply goes to another animal that they are attracted to and tries to mate. Men, on the other hand may be tempted to look upon a woman whom is presenting herself in immodest attire in a way that could be sinful.<BR/><BR/>Women do hold responsibility! If they didn't, why did our blessed Mother dress so modestly, even in appearing in Fatima? Women wore shorter dresses when she appeared, and yet she didn't don that attire.<BR/><BR/>Women are responsible for setting the moral tone in society. When women dress in very revealing attire, it promotes promiscuity, and unfaithfulness an even divorce.<BR/><BR/>Why would a women want men to think of her as simply a "hot body"? Modestly dressing lets men know that you respect yourself and want to be treated with courtesy, as a lady.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-24463937161606329262008-08-19T17:17:00.000-05:002008-08-19T17:17:00.000-05:00... revealing clothing is a source of temptation f...<I>... revealing clothing is a source of temptation for most men."</I><BR/><BR/>Then I would say that they are not men, but dogs and should be kept on a short leash (and possibly muzzled).<BR/> <BR/>It is not the dress that is immodest, but the hearts of those who look upon it. <BR/><BR/>Jesus did not say, <I>"If a man looks at a woman with lust, she has caused him to commit adultery in his heart."</I> No, Jesus put the responsibility quite squarely on the luster, <I>"...everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."</I><BR/><BR/>Nor did he say, <I>"If your brother causes you to be angry he shall be liable to judgement"</I>. Again, Jesus puts the onus of responsibility directly on the individual, <I>"But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire."</I><BR/><BR/>I would be very cautious of the fox prescribing how to best guard the henhouse.<BR/><BR/>As for me, I got to Church to worship in communion with the assembled, not to catalogue and enumerate their faults, failings and sins (real or perceived).Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466885792177930052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-8054503372396060782008-08-15T17:34:00.000-05:002008-08-15T17:34:00.000-05:00Dear Anonymous Atheist,Why should you even care wh...Dear Anonymous Atheist,<BR/><BR/>Why should you even care what Catholics write in a Catholic blog?<BR/><BR/>Why are you, an atheist, even on this blog?<BR/><BR/>For the information of you and others, St. Padre Pio was once told in Confession that the person making the confession did not believe in Hell. Without a moments hesitation St. Padre Pio replied "that is all right, you may not believe in Hell now, but you will when you get there!"<BR/><BR/>God bless, yours in Their Hearts,<BR/>Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman, Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc., www.crcoa.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-21350131156053407522008-08-14T12:50:00.000-05:002008-08-14T12:50:00.000-05:00Blogger Note:A comment was deleted and two unpubli...Blogger Note:<BR/><BR/>A comment was deleted and two unpublished for lack of charity.<BR/><BR/>Peace be to you.John Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00803711185913601754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-70457816877351231302008-08-14T10:58:00.000-05:002008-08-14T10:58:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-21543125197513740092008-08-14T10:12:00.000-05:002008-08-14T10:12:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-67974025585263402522008-08-13T15:27:00.000-05:002008-08-13T15:27:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-38122624335599435232008-08-13T12:41:00.000-05:002008-08-13T12:41:00.000-05:00"The word 'Luck' comes from the word 'Lucifer'. As..."The word 'Luck' comes from the word 'Lucifer'. As Christians, we should never wish someone 'good luck'. Just a thought. Thank you."<BR/><BR/>Holy cow!<BR/><BR/>This is the type of silly comment that boggles my mind! (almost) unbelievable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-42059702001005064852008-08-13T10:01:00.001-05:002008-08-13T10:01:00.001-05:00Just to mention: The word "Luck" comes from the wo...Just to mention: The word "Luck" comes from the word "Lucifer". As Christians, we should never wish someone "good luck". Just a thought. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2037603787996669106.post-79720270174151624282008-08-13T09:58:00.000-05:002008-08-13T09:58:00.000-05:00The saudi arabia comment was meant to point out th...The saudi arabia comment was meant to point out that by dictating WHAT people wear you appear to be similar to strict islam in the way they restrict women's clothing choices.<BR/><BR/>Why get so caught up in WHAT they are wearing? Aren't you all about 'love' and stuff? Shouldn't you be happy that these (under dressed) people are joining you in mass?<BR/><BR/>"Who's passion do you want to follow? The Worlds or God's?"<BR/><BR/>Neither. I'll follow MY passion thank you.<BR/><BR/>"you are arguing with St. Padre Pio and other of the great Saints, and what is more important you are arguing with the Most Blessed Mother"<BR/><BR/>I'm not "arguing" with anyone - I'm just pointing out how petty this makes you all sound. We're talking about clothes right? Too short skirts and such? Pretty petty...<BR/><BR/>"good luck when you try to explain that to Her Son in Eternity!"<BR/><BR/>Oh dear - not this again... as an atheist I abviously don't worry about such silly notions.<BR/><BR/>BUT - do you REALLY believe that god or mary or JC or whomever is going to care about MY views on proper church attire? With all that is happening in the world I can't - in my wildest imagination - imagine god caring about clothes. Seriously.<BR/><BR/>I hope I've kept my tone respectful - I don't mean any offense. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com